All i’d say is that he (Meslier) was outstanding previously, the crap defense and total lack of protection is obviously having a major effect on his confidence. He made couple of great saves today and both goals came from their left wing ripping the dane a new hole, ( he’s a cart horse) Ayling not much better hence me suggesting 3 at back. We had no hold up play, ran around like head less chickens in midfield and totally lacked any controlled urgency. Need someone who can put foot on ball and play the ball into the danger areas. We do though lack that player. Is Archie worth a run? Any of the others? i’m not sure but anything is better than the shit served uo today.
He's capable of outstanding saves but so are many goalkeepers. He's always had the errors if you look back and his distribution is woeful. The errors with him happen whether he's confident or not and we've seen that. It's a processing thing I reckon and you can't really teach someone how quickly they can process things. He may well go on to improve hugely, but my own opinion is that he's not going to get much better. A decent keeper but I wouldn't be upset if we moved on from him.
I'd be looking to if it was up to me.
Think we would have to agree to disagree, i think it’s more the defenses fault rather than the keeper, i don’t think any keeper playing behind that shit show would do any better tbh.
With regards to distribution WTF is this shit of putting defenders on almost the goal line to then give the ball away trying to play out from the back? Very odd idea that seems to have come into play and we are god awful at playing out.
With his distribution it's many things including the long balls he sails out of play or back to the opposition fairly often. Positioning has been suspect since he's been here. There's many things I'm not keen on in his game. Of course a suspect defence contributes but there's quite a few occasions when he makes errors under no pressure and through no fault of the defence.
I don't think he's terrible or anything and he's the least of our problems, but if I was squad assessing I'd replace him along with many others. There aren't many I'd keep though. This squad needs gutting and rebuilding by somebody that is immeasurably better than Orta the oaf.
Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:33 pm
Obviously Gracia isn't going to say right lads play like that again Tuesday is he.
You know full well that’s not what i mean, why be a snide cunt? It doesn’t become you.
I mean not like that in his team selection, he’s gotta go 3 at back and keep that Kristensen off the park, people giving keeper shit but with the protection he’s getting no wonder his confidence is shot. Fuck the yanks off as well whilst he’s at it, soft cunts not worth a shit. I’d be 3 at back with Forshaw ( or any other fucker than that shit fat yank) covering, Paddy up front to hold up ball with Rodrigo playing free role.
It won't go down well but I don't think Meslier is good enough, but unfortunately we have little choice but to play him. It's certainly not all on him by any means. I just don't think he's going to become much more than he is.
We have no midfield and lack options to do much about it. Gracia hasn't made a big difference but with this squad I'm not sure who was going to. I do still think we'll scrape it and then we need to clear the decks.
You know full well that’s not what i mean, why be a snide cunt? It doesn’t become you.
I mean not like that in his team selection, he’s gotta go 3 at back and keep that Kristensen off the park, people giving keeper shit but with the protection he’s getting no wonder his confidence is shot. Fuck the yanks off as well whilst he’s at it, soft cunts not worth a shit. I’d be 3 at back with Forshaw ( or any other fucker than that shit fat yank) covering, Paddy up front to hold up ball with Rodrigo playing free role.
It won't go down well but I don't think Meslier is good enough, but unfortunately we have little choice but to play him. It's certainly not all on him by any means. I just don't think he's going to become much more than he is.
We have no midfield and lack options to do much about it. Gracia hasn't made a big difference but with this squad I'm not sure who was going to. I do still think we'll scrape it and then we need to clear the decks.
Would you play Robles against Leicester?
I don't think so unless it's going to be him until the end of the season. Meslier isn't catastrophic by any means, he's just one of many I'd be replacing in a summer clear out especially while he maintains some high value.
As I said earlier he's the least of our problems but his mistakes are definitely contributing. Do you remove him and risk upsetting other players? Tricky one and as has been pointed out the defenders really need to be doing more to protect him.
Every week he clips a ball into touch under no pressure. Awful distribution. He has no command of his box which is a primary reason we're a shambles defending set pieces.
Good shotstopper but that's minimal requirement. He's brilliant one-on-one.
Positives are overshadowed by the negatives,
at least at this stage of his development.
Rick wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:39 pm
Every week he clips a ball into touch under no pressure. Awful distribution. He has no command of his box which is a primary reason we're a shambles defending set pieces.
Good shotstopper but that's minimal requirement. He's brilliant one-on-one.
Positives are overshadowed by the negatives,
at least at this stage of his development.
Rick wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:39 pm
Every week he clips a ball into touch under no pressure. Awful distribution. He has no command of his box which is a primary reason we're a shambles defending set pieces.
Good shotstopper but that's minimal requirement. He's brilliant one-on-one.
Positives are overshadowed by the negatives,
at least at this stage of his development.
We’ll end up accepting 12-15m for him
Aye Probably. Probably in his best interest to leave anyway. This isn't the ideal environment for players to develop. It's just constant chaos, desperation and panic. Both on the pitch and behind the scenes. Club is a joke.
How many different goalkeeping coaches has he had over the last 2 seasons? I've genuinely no idea.
My natural instinct is to play Bamford, Ayling, Harrison, Forshaw, and Cooper at all times and just hope there's enough fight in those guys to pull us over the line - all the guys that brought us up.
Everyone that's signed since we came up can fuck off.
Skippy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:55 am
My natural instinct is to play Bamford, Ayling, Harrison, Forshaw, and Cooper at all times and just hope there's enough fight in those guys to pull us over the line - all the guys that brought us up.
Everyone that's signed since we came up can fuck off.
Shame Klich went. He'd probably have a few goals and assists by now instead of Aaronson's solitary fuckin goal.
