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nzstevo wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:04 pm Stach looked fucked after 70 mins,
Gruev too slow.
Best midfielder was Longstaff in a short period.as.he didn't continually give the ball away like the rest of them.
That 433 shape doesn't look right to me with the players we have
It'll be right for the majority of home games and away in winnable games against lesser opponents.

We were very good on Monday, less good today.
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We were too slow, too passive and looked like we were scared to come out of position. I appreciate Arsenal are one of the best teams in Europe but that was frustrating as fuck. Gruev was shite as was Piroe. Didn’t put up a fight until they brought the kids on.

Answered some questions, Longstaff is better than Gruev. Ncha is better than Piroe especially for away games and James isn’t so fast in the Prem.

That said, these games don’t keep us up.
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Begbie wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:17 pm
nzstevo wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:04 pm Stach looked fucked after 70 mins,
Gruev too slow.
Best midfielder was Longstaff in a short period.as.he didn't continually give the ball away like the rest of them.
That 433 shape doesn't look right to me with the players we have
It'll be right for the majority of home games and away in winnable games against lesser opponents.

We were very good on Monday, less good today.
Hope you're right but I don't think Piroe is mobile enough or strong enough to occupy the centre half pair, James doesn't seem as comfortable playing narrower and Bogle seems to have lost half his game (whether that's the shape or fitness who knows).
Whilst we were dominant against a very shite Everton we created very little
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nzstevo wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:50 pm
Begbie wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:17 pm
nzstevo wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:04 pm Stach looked fucked after 70 mins,
Gruev too slow.
Best midfielder was Longstaff in a short period.as.he didn't continually give the ball away like the rest of them.
That 433 shape doesn't look right to me with the players we have
It'll be right for the majority of home games and away in winnable games against lesser opponents.

We were very good on Monday, less good today.
Hope you're right but I don't think Piroe is mobile enough or strong enough to occupy the centre half pair, James doesn't seem as comfortable playing narrower and Bogle seems to have lost half his game (whether that's the shape or fitness who knows).
Whilst we were dominant against a very shite Everton we created very little
Bogle isn't 100% fit yet. He's definitely not running up and down the wing as much as normal.
I put him in the same bracket as Piroe though, it's up to others to bring out the best in him...

James doesn't need to play narrow and in fact he should definitely not do as we need him as a potential out ball. With three central midfielders he should be hugging the line otherwise it's verging on Marsch-ball.

Piroe is a goalscorer, a goalscorer, a goalscorer.
I don't remember asking Lee Chapman or Mark Viduka to do anything other than that, and they didn't...
I (blindly or otherwise) believe that's he's able to be just like those two. I don't care about the rest of the park.

With Piroe in mind though I think that it's possibly worth considering a Nmecha or Calvert-Lewin instead of Or alongside in away games versus dominant teams like Arsenal...
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Begbie wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:00 pm
nzstevo wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:50 pm
Begbie wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:17 pm

It'll be right for the majority of home games and away in winnable games against lesser opponents.

We were very good on Monday, less good today.
Hope you're right but I don't think Piroe is mobile enough or strong enough to occupy the centre half pair, James doesn't seem as comfortable playing narrower and Bogle seems to have lost half his game (whether that's the shape or fitness who knows).
Whilst we were dominant against a very shite Everton we created very little
Bogle isn't 100% fit yet. He's definitely not running up and down the wing as much as normal.
I put him in the same bracket as Piroe though, it's up to others to bring out the best in him...

James doesn't need to play narrow and in fact he should definitely not do as we need him as a potential out ball. With three central midfielders he should be hugging the line otherwise it's verging on Marsch-ball.

Piroe is a goalscorer, a goalscorer, a goalscorer.
I don't remember asking Lee Chapman or Mark Viduka to do anything other than that, and they didn't...
I (blindly or otherwise) believe that's he's able to be just like those two. I don't care about the rest of the park.

With Piroe in mind though I think that it's possibly worth considering a Nmecha or Calvert-Lewin instead of Or alongside in away games versus dominant teams like Arsenal...
Think Piroe would suit someone in front of him, some big strong bastard.
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Yeboahs left foot wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:37 pm
Begbie wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:00 pm
nzstevo wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:50 pm

Hope you're right but I don't think Piroe is mobile enough or strong enough to occupy the centre half pair, James doesn't seem as comfortable playing narrower and Bogle seems to have lost half his game (whether that's the shape or fitness who knows).
Whilst we were dominant against a very shite Everton we created very little
Bogle isn't 100% fit yet. He's definitely not running up and down the wing as much as normal.
I put him in the same bracket as Piroe though, it's up to others to bring out the best in him...

James doesn't need to play narrow and in fact he should definitely not do as we need him as a potential out ball. With three central midfielders he should be hugging the line otherwise it's verging on Marsch-ball.

Piroe is a goalscorer, a goalscorer, a goalscorer.
I don't remember asking Lee Chapman or Mark Viduka to do anything other than that, and they didn't...
I (blindly or otherwise) believe that's he's able to be just like those two. I don't care about the rest of the park.

With Piroe in mind though I think that it's possibly worth considering a Nmecha or Calvert-Lewin instead of Or alongside in away games versus dominant teams like Arsenal...
Think Piroe would suit someone in front of him, some big strong bastard.
I'm not against that.
In old fashioned back in the day 442 Piroe would be a guaranteed 20 goal a season man with that nasty centre forward alongside him.

I wish that I knew the answer,,, get Piroe opportunities right he scores goals and our likelihood of winning games increases IMHO.

Calvert-Lewin or Nmecha to do Mr Nasty alongside Piroe, and Daniel James pace in amongst it as well...
Going forward that sounds nice but our full backs are isolated again like they were today UNLESS our central power are absolutely everywhere so that it doesn't come to that...

It's a dilemma...
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Hampshirewhites wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:41 pm Piroe was very poor Sid.
Gruev passed straight to them for the first and also on the line watching 2 two go in.
Gudmundsson wasn't brilliant either.
Wasn't expecting anything but 5 hurt. On wards to Newcastle.
Have to be honest i expected 4 by half time, 5or 6 i was expecting.
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Yeboahs left foot wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:37 pm
Begbie wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:00 pm
nzstevo wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:50 pm

Hope you're right but I don't think Piroe is mobile enough or strong enough to occupy the centre half pair, James doesn't seem as comfortable playing narrower and Bogle seems to have lost half his game (whether that's the shape or fitness who knows).
Whilst we were dominant against a very shite Everton we created very little
Bogle isn't 100% fit yet. He's definitely not running up and down the wing as much as normal.
I put him in the same bracket as Piroe though, it's up to others to bring out the best in him...

James doesn't need to play narrow and in fact he should definitely not do as we need him as a potential out ball. With three central midfielders he should be hugging the line otherwise it's verging on Marsch-ball.

Piroe is a goalscorer, a goalscorer, a goalscorer.
I don't remember asking Lee Chapman or Mark Viduka to do anything other than that, and they didn't...
I (blindly or otherwise) believe that's he's able to be just like those two. I don't care about the rest of the park.

With Piroe in mind though I think that it's possibly worth considering a Nmecha or Calvert-Lewin instead of Or alongside in away games versus dominant teams like Arsenal...
Think Piroe would suit someone in front of him, some big strong bastard.
No doubt he can finish, he is just so frustrating, i worry he’s just not quick enough to get onto the end of balls, the prem is another couple of gears up again speed wise.
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Piroe didn't get the ball first half, cant score if they don't pass to him, if you want a ball holding forward, we have one, one were trying to get rid of, but we have one and should have had him in the squad just in case, we didn't. Also after the Everton game i was a tad concerned but after yesterday i was even more concerned with the keeper, that man has some fuck ups in his locker and no one is mentioning it
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Fev wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:10 am Piroe didn't get the ball first half, cant score if they don't pass to him, if you want a ball holding forward, we have one, one were trying to get rid of, but we have one and should have had him in the squad just in case, we didn't. Also after the Everton game i was a tad concerned but after yesterday i was even more concerned with the keeper, that man has some fuck ups in his locker and no one is mentioning it
Perri looked a bit like Meslier at times. Gudmundsson wasn't great either.
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