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Re: Fulham v Zebs Mighty Whites MDT

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:12 pm
by Rick
Sid wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:58 pm
Rick wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:38 pm
Sid wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:56 pm What i find incredible is the amount of people who seem surprised by our predicament, was so obvious where it was all heading as soon as they got rid of MB and the inexplicable appointment of the American idiot.
Fans have known they're incompetent since before they even hired Bielsa. Chanting Orta out years ago. All that badge nonsense. I doubt many people are surprised it's gone to shit.

What amazes me is the amount of people wanting Bielsa sacked for losing to top 4 with Bates and Roberts in midfield. We were 8 points clear before that run of fixtures. The fact Marsch survived an even worse run tells folk everything they need to know about what's gone on here
Yes things were off whilst MB was here and before with the shit recruitment of players and managers, things though were building under Bielsa despite the shite they tried to force upon him, the amount of people across the fan base who then came out with give the yank a chance, give him time etc etc etc was amazing, it was so clear when he first came in and even more so after surviving by the skin of our teeth. He saved us, deserved a go this year etc etc. Unbelievable. I’ll give it to pigtits, he was pretty adamant about Radz from day one, i still think he is naïve in a football sense but pigtits looks like he called it right over all.
You were bang on Sid. I feared the worst, gave him a chance and thought you we being a bit hyperbolic. It turned out to be just as bad as you suggested.

I was reading Leicester forum when he was on the verge of becoming their new gaffer. A few on there saying give him a chance. I thought to myself, don't fuckin do it to yersens.

Saying that, Marsch was only ever a byproduct of the problem here. Club was only heading in one direction regardless with those twats wanting to pull the strings/take back control from Bielsa.

By pure chance we've got some good players but they never buy what's needed to properly take the squad forward. Its so unbalanced. Tough task for any manager. Orta isn't building a squad here. It's like sending a child to do your weekly shop and them coming back with a trolly full of sweets, cakes and chocolate. Doesn't make for a functioning kitchen. Just fills the squad with similar profile of player. Sinistera, Gnonto, Rutter, Harrison, Summerville, Aaronson. Christ we have enough buy a proper no.9.

Re: Fulham v Zebs Mighty Whites MDT

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:03 am
by Sid
Rick wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:12 pm
Sid wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:58 pm
Rick wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:38 pm
Fans have known they're incompetent since before they even hired Bielsa. Chanting Orta out years ago. All that badge nonsense. I doubt many people are surprised it's gone to shit.

What amazes me is the amount of people wanting Bielsa sacked for losing to top 4 with Bates and Roberts in midfield. We were 8 points clear before that run of fixtures. The fact Marsch survived an even worse run tells folk everything they need to know about what's gone on here
Yes things were off whilst MB was here and before with the shit recruitment of players and managers, things though were building under Bielsa despite the shite they tried to force upon him, the amount of people across the fan base who then came out with give the yank a chance, give him time etc etc etc was amazing, it was so clear when he first came in and even more so after surviving by the skin of our teeth. He saved us, deserved a go this year etc etc. Unbelievable. I’ll give it to pigtits, he was pretty adamant about Radz from day one, i still think he is naïve in a football sense but pigtits looks like he called it right over all.
You were bang on Sid. I feared the worst, gave him a chance and thought you we being a bit hyperbolic. It turned out to be just as bad as you suggested.

I was reading Leicester forum when he was on the verge of becoming their new gaffer. A few on there saying give him a chance. I thought to myself, don't fuckin do it to yersens.

Saying that, Marsch was only ever a byproduct of the problem here. Club was only heading in one direction regardless with those twats wanting to pull the strings/take back control from Bielsa.

By pure chance we've got some good players but they never buy what's needed to properly take the squad forward. Its so unbalanced. Tough task for any manager. Orta isn't building a squad here. It's like sending a child to do your weekly shop and them coming back with a trolly full of sweets, cakes and chocolate. Doesn't make for a functioning kitchen. Just fills the squad with similar profile of player. Sinistera, Gnonto, Rutter, Harrison, Summerville, Aaronson. Christ we have enough buy a proper no.9.
Just went on his previous and what was out there opinion wise on him, was so obvious it makes you wonder how the board of so called professional business men allowed the greasy little smurf to bring him in. Totally beyond my comprehension. I spoke to a few clients in germany who follow football and they all said he was a laughing stock. Totally clueless etc, and that was the polite version.
How anyone thought going from Bielsa to that fraud was a constructive improvement i really don’t know. If i could get that info on him what were Radz and the rest doing? Incompetence at best.
I gave Radz a bit of leeway as believe Orta is the one who has hoodwinked him, how he can though over look the shit show we have seen and not fire the greasy little fucker into space i’ll never know. Because of that i now believe Radz is also out of hos depth and needs to go asap. Pigtits called it correctly. I don’t want Radz to loose millions even though he deserves it as that means relegation but fuck me !!!

Re: Fulham v Zebs Mighty Whites MDT

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:40 am
by Hampshirewhites
Sid wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:03 am
Rick wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:12 pm
Sid wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:58 pm

Yes things were off whilst MB was here and before with the shit recruitment of players and managers, things though were building under Bielsa despite the shite they tried to force upon him, the amount of people across the fan base who then came out with give the yank a chance, give him time etc etc etc was amazing, it was so clear when he first came in and even more so after surviving by the skin of our teeth. He saved us, deserved a go this year etc etc. Unbelievable. I’ll give it to pigtits, he was pretty adamant about Radz from day one, i still think he is naïve in a football sense but pigtits looks like he called it right over all.
You were bang on Sid. I feared the worst, gave him a chance and thought you we being a bit hyperbolic. It turned out to be just as bad as you suggested.

I was reading Leicester forum when he was on the verge of becoming their new gaffer. A few on there saying give him a chance. I thought to myself, don't fuckin do it to yersens.

Saying that, Marsch was only ever a byproduct of the problem here. Club was only heading in one direction regardless with those twats wanting to pull the strings/take back control from Bielsa.

By pure chance we've got some good players but they never buy what's needed to properly take the squad forward. Its so unbalanced. Tough task for any manager. Orta isn't building a squad here. It's like sending a child to do your weekly shop and them coming back with a trolly full of sweets, cakes and chocolate. Doesn't make for a functioning kitchen. Just fills the squad with similar profile of player. Sinistera, Gnonto, Rutter, Harrison, Summerville, Aaronson. Christ we have enough buy a proper no.9.
Just went on his previous and what was out there opinion wise on him, was so obvious it makes you wonder how the board of so called professional business men allowed the greasy little smurf to bring him in. Totally beyond my comprehension. I spoke to a few clients in germany who follow football and they all said he was a laughing stock. Totally clueless etc, and that was the polite version.
How anyone thought going from Bielsa to that fraud was a constructive improvement i really don’t know. If i could get that info on him what were Radz and the rest doing? Incompetence at best.
I gave Radz a bit of leeway as believe Orta is the one who has hoodwinked him, how he can though over look the shit show we have seen and not fire the greasy little fucker into space i’ll never know. Because of that i now believe Radz is also out of hos depth and needs to go asap. Pigtits called it correctly. I don’t want Radz to loose millions even though he deserves it as that means relegation but fuck me !!!
Someone asked me who gave the final sign off on the shit Orta has bought.
Buck must stop with Radrizani but as you say, he's clueless about players.
Bielsa wouldn't agree to Orta's shit offers and we can see why. Bielsa said Roca wasn't fit enough and we can see he's was right

Re: Fulham v Zebs Mighty Whites MDT

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:36 am
by Sid
Hampshirewhites wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:40 am
Sid wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:03 am
Rick wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:12 pm

You were bang on Sid. I feared the worst, gave him a chance and thought you we being a bit hyperbolic. It turned out to be just as bad as you suggested.

I was reading Leicester forum when he was on the verge of becoming their new gaffer. A few on there saying give him a chance. I thought to myself, don't fuckin do it to yersens.

Saying that, Marsch was only ever a byproduct of the problem here. Club was only heading in one direction regardless with those twats wanting to pull the strings/take back control from Bielsa.

By pure chance we've got some good players but they never buy what's needed to properly take the squad forward. Its so unbalanced. Tough task for any manager. Orta isn't building a squad here. It's like sending a child to do your weekly shop and them coming back with a trolly full of sweets, cakes and chocolate. Doesn't make for a functioning kitchen. Just fills the squad with similar profile of player. Sinistera, Gnonto, Rutter, Harrison, Summerville, Aaronson. Christ we have enough buy a proper no.9.
Just went on his previous and what was out there opinion wise on him, was so obvious it makes you wonder how the board of so called professional business men allowed the greasy little smurf to bring him in. Totally beyond my comprehension. I spoke to a few clients in germany who follow football and they all said he was a laughing stock. Totally clueless etc, and that was the polite version.
How anyone thought going from Bielsa to that fraud was a constructive improvement i really don’t know. If i could get that info on him what were Radz and the rest doing? Incompetence at best.
I gave Radz a bit of leeway as believe Orta is the one who has hoodwinked him, how he can though over look the shit show we have seen and not fire the greasy little fucker into space i’ll never know. Because of that i now believe Radz is also out of hos depth and needs to go asap. Pigtits called it correctly. I don’t want Radz to loose millions even though he deserves it as that means relegation but fuck me !!!
Someone asked me who gave the final sign off on the shit Orta has bought.
Buck must stop with Radrizani but as you say, he's clueless about players.
Bielsa wouldn't agree to Orta's shit offers and we can see why. Bielsa said Roca wasn't fit enough and we can see he's was right
Roca is one amongst a fair few from same window,Bielsa was proved right in so many ways. They would not have been any better than what he had, didn’t fit the play and were basically all in need of pre season in order for they to stand a chance. Orta thought he knew better and engineered Bielsa’s end and now we are in a shit position because of him.
The other thing that seems to have happened is that when orta bought in the likes of Rodrigo and co, team spirit that was so evident under Bielsa seemed to disappear, bad apples etc etc. Again wrong type of over rated big head bought in by a clueless big head.