Dirty Leeds

Sid wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:01 pm

Titman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:49 pm

Hampshirewhites wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:58 pm
Kristiansen has to be given a chance.

Lost possession 32 times today. Sadly I’m not sure Kristiansen is any better.
But as much as I have respect for Bill we can’t carry on like this.

What does he do though? 3 at back ?

That would suit Kristensen and Firpo probably.

I don't think we'll see it used though.

Rumours of a disagreement/fight at HT?

Titman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:56 pm Rumours of a disagreement/fight at HT?

I was listening to radio leeds post match. A fan phoned in and said he reckons there must've been a fight at half time for players to come out and play so differently. Then a few mins after he said it I noticed a few on twitter saying "there been a falling out HT?".

I might be wrong but I think it all just stems from that bloke on radio leeds speculating.

Even if there was some disagreement (and it's always the same with some of our fans when we lose who have to find a conspiracy somewhere) it doesn't excuse that showing.

Warning signs were there first half and we didn't address them. As soon as Ayling messed up for their equaliser you could see the panic spread among a lot of our players. For me there's no conspiracy, we just got beat after shitting the bed the second Palace scored.

Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:16 pm Even if there was some disagreement (and it's always the same with some of our fans when we lose who have to find a conspiracy somewhere) it doesn't excuse that showing.

Warning signs were there first half and we didn't address them. As soon as Ayling messed up for their equaliser you could see the panic spread among a lot of our players. For me there's no conspiracy, we just got beat after shitting the bed the second Palace scored.

Yep, also in Paddy's interview he touched on how the players aren't panicking, said they're "not exactly upbeat, but know this game won't define our season".

I doubt if there had been a dressing room bust up he'd be so casually bringing up the mood of the players.

Rick wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:23 pm

Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:16 pm Even if there was some disagreement (and it's always the same with some of our fans when we lose who have to find a conspiracy somewhere) it doesn't excuse that showing.

Warning signs were there first half and we didn't address them. As soon as Ayling messed up for their equaliser you could see the panic spread among a lot of our players. For me there's no conspiracy, we just got beat after shitting the bed the second Palace scored.

Yep, also in Paddy's interview he touched on how the players aren't panicking, said they're "not exactly upbeat, but know this game won't define our season".

I doubt if there had been a dressing room bust up he'd be so casually bringing up the mood of the players.

There was definitely panic among a lot of them today. If after the game they managed to put it aside and we don't see that rabbit in the headlights performance again then all power to them.

In my opinion we have quite a few mentally fragile players who need replacing as soon as it's possible.

Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:27 pm

Rick wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:23 pm

Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:16 pm Even if there was some disagreement (and it's always the same with some of our fans when we lose who have to find a conspiracy somewhere) it doesn't excuse that showing.

Warning signs were there first half and we didn't address them. As soon as Ayling messed up for their equaliser you could see the panic spread among a lot of our players. For me there's no conspiracy, we just got beat after shitting the bed the second Palace scored.

Yep, also in Paddy's interview he touched on how the players aren't panicking, said they're "not exactly upbeat, but know this game won't define our season".

I doubt if there had been a dressing room bust up he'd be so casually bringing up the mood of the players.

There was definitely panic among a lot of them today. If after the game they managed to put it aside and we don't see that rabbit in the headlights performance again then all power to them.

In my opinion we have quite a few mentally fragile players who need replacing as soon as it's possible.

Yeah agree mate. My point was more about the rumoured bust up, rather than your panic comment. We defo panicked during the match, completely folded. But hopefully Paddy is right regarding them being able to put it behind them and go again.

Aye, was very little leadership today. If Wober isn't fit v Liverpool I'd bring Coops in. Just to have a voice out there. He'd probably do summat stupid mind.

Rick wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:34 pm

Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:27 pm

Rick wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:23 pm
Yep, also in Paddy's interview he touched on how the players aren't panicking, said they're "not exactly upbeat, but know this game won't define our season".

I doubt if there had been a dressing room bust up he'd be so casually bringing up the mood of the players.

There was definitely panic among a lot of them today. If after the game they managed to put it aside and we don't see that rabbit in the headlights performance again then all power to them.

In my opinion we have quite a few mentally fragile players who need replacing as soon as it's possible.

Yeah agree mate. My point was more about the rumoured bust up, rather than your panic comment. We defo panicked during the match, completely folded. But hopefully Paddy is right regarding them being able to put it behind them and go again.

Aye, was very little leadership today. If Wober isn't fit v Liverpool I'd bring Coops in. Just to have a voice out there. He'd probably do summat stupid mind.

Just been saying the same to a mate about Cooper. He's the only real leader we have and would be straight in for me, if Wober can't go.

I still think we stay up but can't afford to crack almost to a man like that again.

Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:40 pm
Just been saying the same to a mate about Cooper. He's the only real leader we have and would be straight in for me, if Wober can't go.

I still think we stay up but can't afford to crack almost to a man like that again.

So unexpected too. That's strange thing about it. We went 1 down v Forest and just stuck to the plan. Professional. Didn't let emotion come into it. Then all talk from players leading up to today about the calmness Javi brings.

I actually thought to myself before kick off if we go 1 down at least we'll just stick at it. So to capitulate after an equaliser has baffled me. Still in shock.

Motd offered little to settle my confusion either. Talked about Leeds for 5 seconds, basically just said we went to complete shit. I don't think they had a clue what to say about us, so just talked about Palace.

As much as I like the way Javi comes across on the tele and the way he conducts himself generally... the fact that he failed at a few jobs and ended up in Saudi Arabia (or wherever it was) has always had me thinking that he's probably not the long-term guy to take us forward.

If we do stay up, do we go back in for Iraola or does he deserve his chance?



Mind you... I just googled and Rayo Vallecano hasn't won in eight matches haha

You really can't help but start to think we'd very better off going down and clearing half these blokes out, though, can you.

Whichever way you look at it, most of them aren't up to it. You look at the teams around us, and I don't know how many of our lot would be automatic starters in their teams.

Basically Bielsa polished a turd, and now it's all unravelling with him gone.