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Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:57 pm
by Rick
DAMO wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:35 pm £20m for Harrison....we will sorely regret not taking that.
Has the odd moment of brilliance but when he's bad he's utterly atrocious. Dread him recieving the ball when he's out of form, which seems to be 90% of the time.

He has a lot of credit in the bank but its getting fucking ridiculous now. If he can't cross a ball semi-consistently he shouldn't be in the Prem. That one he put in the stand with a few mins left. Fuck off Jack.

Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:19 pm
by Rick
Hampshirewhites wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:56 pm
Rick wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:56 pm Had enough of this shit. McKennie is no better than Klich or Forshaw, and why the fuck have we spent £35 million on a kid who can't hold ball up?

Aaronson and Harrison need the stars aligning to put a decent ball in.

Summerville can look dangerous at times, when he's not disappearing up his own arse or rolling around on deck.

Why the fuck didn't Gnonto start if he's fit?. Only one that plays with his head up.

Need Sini and Gnonto playing wide of Bamford. But that won't happen cos 2 of em are crocked.
Pretty good summary.
McKennie is Pretty poor, Harrison was awful.
Firpi or Koch best two.
Marsch has gone but still fucking us with Rodrigo injury.
Yep Rod only fucker who can score. You know when he's supposed to be back?

Was hoping Paddy coming in would improve us overall but he's just not the same player anymore.

Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:22 pm
by DAMO
Rick wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:57 pm
DAMO wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:35 pm £20m for Harrison....we will sorely regret not taking that.
Has the odd moment of brilliance but when he's bad he's utterly atrocious. Dread him recieving the ball when he's out of form, which seems to be 90% of the time.

He has a lot of credit in the bank but its getting fucking ridiculous now. If he can't cross a ball semi-consistently he shouldn't be in the Prem. That one he put in the stand with a few mins left. Fuck off Jack.
yeah totally agree mate

Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:55 pm
by Sid
Rick wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:57 pm
DAMO wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:35 pm £20m for Harrison....we will sorely regret not taking that.
Has the odd moment of brilliance but when he's bad he's utterly atrocious. Dread him recieving the ball when he's out of form, which seems to be 90% of the time.


He has a lot of credit in the bank but its getting fucking ridiculous now. If he can't cross a ball semi-consistently he shouldn't be in the Prem. That one he put in the stand with a few mins left. Fuck off Jack.
I don’t think Harrison amongst others is playing in his strongest position, Gracia has a job on trying to sort out the positional clusterfuck he inherited. What’s the stupid idea of 2 defenders standing side of keeper at goal kick , Only to take ten passes to punt up field? Fucked that a couple of times. We have a fuckin powderpuff of a No7, a right winger who doesn’t know when to release the ball, and still a gaping hole down left exposed by a cross ball. Add that to a striker playing just in front of the back four and no surprise even without our giving the ball away every 2 minutes and putting ourselves under pressure and manager has a right job on his hands.
Defence overall a positive, Wober looking a very sound buy, even firpo has improved.
Just need yanks to sort themselves out and stop thinking the opposition are not allowed to take ball off you.

Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:58 pm
by Hampshirewhites
Rick wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:19 pm
Hampshirewhites wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:56 pm
Rick wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:56 pm Had enough of this shit. McKennie is no better than Klich or Forshaw, and why the fuck have we spent £35 million on a kid who can't hold ball up?

Aaronson and Harrison need the stars aligning to put a decent ball in.

Summerville can look dangerous at times, when he's not disappearing up his own arse or rolling around on deck.

Why the fuck didn't Gnonto start if he's fit?. Only one that plays with his head up.

Need Sini and Gnonto playing wide of Bamford. But that won't happen cos 2 of em are crocked.
Pretty good summary.
McKennie is Pretty poor, Harrison was awful.
Firpi or Koch best two.
Marsch has gone but still fucking us with Rodrigo injury.
Yep Rod only fucker who can score. You know when he's supposed to be back?

Was hoping Paddy coming in would improve us overall but he's just not the same player anymore.
I think Rodrigo has said he's ahead of schedule.
Hoping for Wolves.

Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:44 pm
by Rick
Sid wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:55 pm
Rick wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:57 pm
DAMO wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:35 pm £20m for Harrison....we will sorely regret not taking that.
Has the odd moment of brilliance but when he's bad he's utterly atrocious. Dread him recieving the ball when he's out of form, which seems to be 90% of the time.


He has a lot of credit in the bank but its getting fucking ridiculous now. If he can't cross a ball semi-consistently he shouldn't be in the Prem. That one he put in the stand with a few mins left. Fuck off Jack.
I don’t think Harrison amongst others is playing in his strongest position, Gracia has a job on trying to sort out the positional clusterfuck he inherited. What’s the stupid idea of 2 defenders standing side of keeper at goal kick , Only to take ten passes to punt up field? Fucked that a couple of times. We have a fuckin powderpuff of a No7, a right winger who doesn’t know when to release the ball, and still a gaping hole down left exposed by a cross ball. Add that to a striker playing just in front of the back four and no surprise even without our giving the ball away every 2 minutes and putting ourselves under pressure and manager has a right job on his hands.
Defence overall a positive, Wober looking a very sound buy, even firpo has improved.
Just need yanks to sort themselves out and stop thinking the opposition are not allowed to take ball off you.
Aye spot on.

I think main problem is, although there's talent here, this squad was mindlessly assembled. No balance and players don't complement eachother in any tactical sense. A byproduct of having a complete lack of harmony between any tactical vision and recruitment. That's what happens when an incompetent DOF like Orta hires an incompetent manager like Marsch. For example I don't think Adams and McKennie suit playing together cos neither have progressive passing to their game. This has gone on ever since Bielsa left (and before he arrived). Squad full of wingers asked to play narrow etc. Ball player like Roca brought in for a system with nobody for him to spread ball to etc.

JG basically has to clean up Orta's and Jesse's mess and find a way of turning this group of individuals into an actual cohesive unit that utilises their strengths and hides their weaknesses, and fast.

Time will tell if he can. So far I've seen things I've been impressed with but also some things not so much. He says he can't change everything cos he doesn't have time which is fair enough. Some tedious old habits were very evidently there today.

Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:07 am
by Titman
At the end of the day it’s hardly surprising we looked poor against a side that cost 700m+.
Gracias time with the squad has been broken by match prep. He’s got a whole week to work with them now. It’s not how we perform against like sod Chelsea. It’ll be teams like Villa, Leicester, etc.

Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:42 am
by Sid
Oh and something else we are missing. Bit of Stewart Dallas would do us world of good. Any idea how he’s doing?

Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:36 am
by Hampshirewhites
Sid wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:42 am Oh and something else we are missing. Bit of Stewart Dallas would do us world of good. Any idea how he’s doing?
No sign of him coming back. Be surprised if he plays this season.

Re: MDT - Chelscum v Zebs Mighty Whites

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:15 am
by Schwantz34
Sid wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:42 am Oh and something else we are missing. Bit of Stewart Dallas would do us world of good. Any idea how he’s doing?
He'd be very useful in a Gracia setup.

We've definitely missed him in the side.