Yep, I was sat on my phone until close to midnight following it all. Even logged in to waccoe for the first time in a couple of years to try and get some info before I crashed.
I know it's a bit dead on here lately, but fucking hell waccoe moves at a crazy pace.
I can say with pride that I was off Orta before we even got promoted. The way he handled himself with the spygate stuff and all the crocodile tears put me right off.
I really can't think of anything Orta really deserves credit for. The only players that 'went on to become legends' only did so because Marcelo was here. Without him they'd all of been flops.
Even Marcelo.... wasn't it Kinnear and Radz that actually went and met with him in Argentina? If he'd spoken to Orta he'd probably have been put off.