Dirty Leeds

Titman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:13 pm Like you say Schwantz, judgement will be reserved till September. Ponderous I think is the best way of describing their start so far.
Btw, have they taken down the giant poster of Koch yet?

Batley_white wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:27 pm Read into it what you will but my mate and his son who has cancer have been at Thorpe Arch today and met everyone, Gnonto gave him a set of his boots - He said don't go to Everton mate - he just laughed, Cooper said hes not interested in Saudi, Adams is bang up for the season and wants to fight all the way, Bamfords a cripple, 4 signings to come and we will be impressed by the quality of them, Meslier went to sign his shirt and dropped the fucking pen lol

Rick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:24 pm

Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:49 pm

Rick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:30 pm

Sounds like we'll sign a few towards the end of the window when we've a better idea of how much we can safely spend and who's staying/going. Pointless buying a striker for £5m now when in a few weeks we may be able to spend £10-15m on a first choice target.

They might have to weigh up just saying hell with it though and risking it to spend before the end of the window. Might mean missing out on who Farke wants otherwise.

Of course there will be lists of top targets at each position he's asked for, so in theory should still be able to bring in what he wants if we do wait.

It'll just keep people on the doom train if they wait. I'll wait to see where we are when that window shuts before declaring the 49ERs incompetent like some fans around are.

As an aside I just had to edit that a few times for a lot of spelling mistakes. My God the damn phone keypad destroys my typing

Aye, this window is a balancing act of being proactive and reactive. Pointless judging the board til window shuts. If by then the squad is in good shape great, and if not questions will be asked.

I can understand the pessimism, we've been condition this way over the years. But no way is the current situation indicative of these guys just trying to do it on the cheap, which I've seen mentioned on Twitter a fair bit. They wouldn't be having meetings about expanding ER already otherwise. Plus their other franchise wasn't done on the cheap.

Farke said in his first interview the squad will look very different at the end of the window and that he's being backed in the market. Still a month to go.

Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:12 pm It's not just Twitter. Most of WACCOE have already declared them no better than the last lot, potless chancers, incompetent and other things. Some of which is way over the top and just completely false on some of the lines being trotted out over there.

I highly doubt all incomings will be loans so the fact Farke keeps saying they're working on players doesn't suggest we're skint and neither does what we shelled out on Ampadu. Also if it was cheap stop gap players you'd imagine they'd be in by now so the quality of players we're looking at I think will be good.

They've had a mess to clear from Radz and while they played some part in that, he had overall say as the majority owner so how much power to make decisions did they really have I wonder? Or were they more just Radz cash help and largely left him to it? Interesting if we ever get to find out.

TAK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:55 pm Is Sam Byram available on Sunday???

Batley_white wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:27 pm Read into it what you will but my mate and his son who has cancer have been at Thorpe Arch today and met everyone, Gnonto gave him a set of his boots - He said don't go to Everton mate - he just laughed, Cooper said hes not interested in Saudi, Adams is bang up for the season and wants to fight all the way, Bamfords a cripple, 4 signings to come and we will be impressed by the quality of them, Meslier went to sign his shirt and dropped the fucking pen lol

Hampshirewhites wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:05 pm
Sounds similar too what Dorigo said about 3-4 signings.

Rick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:42 pm

Schwantz34 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:12 pm It's not just Twitter. Most of WACCOE have already declared them no better than the last lot, potless chancers, incompetent and other things. Some of which is way over the top and just completely false on some of the lines being trotted out over there.

I highly doubt all incomings will be loans so the fact Farke keeps saying they're working on players doesn't suggest we're skint and neither does what we shelled out on Ampadu. Also if it was cheap stop gap players you'd imagine they'd be in by now so the quality of players we're looking at I think will be good.

They've had a mess to clear from Radz and while they played some part in that, he had overall say as the majority owner so how much power to make decisions did they really have I wonder? Or were they more just Radz cash help and largely left him to it? Interesting if we ever get to find out.

I think Marathe's first interview a couple of weeks ago was pretty telling. Pretty much said the last lot fucked up and he had limited power to prevent it, though he "observed and learned" from it. The new structure and additions behind the scenes to "prevent footballing decisions residing with one person", suggests this to be true. Then a few hours later Radz went on Sky saying he fucked up trusting Orta.

Basically sounds like Radz gave Orta all the power and Orta did not like resistance from anyone, otherwise he'd have a pissy fit (even threatened to walk if Marsch went). Therefore I doubt 49ers were allowed much influence over on-field matters, though tried to intervene a few times with little sucess (friction in the boardroom over Rutter signing, and they apparently contacted Bielsa about returning). Orta's position seemed untenable once full takeover was round the corner.

Seems like a bit of a power struggle went on here. Fresh slate for them as they're fully behind the wheel now.